Moments before shots were fired at President
Kennedy, Oswald told DPD Capt. Fritz that "he was having his lunch
about that time on the first floor." Oswald said that he then went to
the second floor where the Coca-Cola machine was located and obtained a
bottle of Coca-Cola for his lunch. Unfortunately, Oswald failed to tell
Fritz whether he went to the 2nd floor via the old wooden stairs (NW
corner of the building) or took the stairs adjacent to the front
entrance of the building. The Warren Commission, however, didn't care
what Oswald said. The WC said that Oswald was on the 6th floor firing
shots at President Kennedy, and then quickly ran down the stairs to the
2nd floor lunchroom where he was confronted by Officer Marrion Baker
and Roy Truly. What follows are the statements and testimony of
witnesses who were ignored by the WC, because these witnesses could
show that Oswald was not on the 6th floor, and knew for a fact that he
did not run down the stairs to the 2nd floor lunchroom.
Victoria Adams, Sandra Styles, supervisor Dorothy Garner, and Elsie
Dorman were watching the Presidential parade from their office on the
4th floor of the TSBD when shots were fired. Adams told the WC that
she, along with co-worker Sandra Styles, left their office, and hurried
down the old, wooden stairway in the NW corner of the building.
Supervisor Dorothy Garner, who was not interviewed by the WC, stayed on
the 4th floor and watched the young ladies as they hurried down the
stairs.
Adams told the WC they arrived on the 1st floor “no
longer than a minute at the most." During an interview with JFK
researcher Sean Murphy, Styles said that she and Adams left the office
"rather quickly" after watching Jackie Kennedy crawl on the trunk of
the Presidential limousine. Styles said, "I told an interviewer (FBI?
not sure) that when we got downstairs, the police were there...."
Styles, however, was not interviewed by the WC, because her testimony
would confirm that both women left the 4th floor "rather quickly."
Seeing the police (Officer Baker) on the first floor would agree with
Adams, who said they arrived on the first floor less than one minute
after the shooting (click here to see discussion and emails between Sean
Murphy and Sandra Styles). Victoria Adams' testimony of arriving on
the first floor in less than one minute was of great concern to the WC.
Adams' testimony was a serious "timing problem" because the WC said
that immediately following the shooting Oswald was running down the
steps from the 6th floor to the 2nd floor lunchroom. But neither Adams
nor Styles nor Dorothy Garner saw, heard, or saw anyone running down
the steps during the minutes following the shooting.
On February 17, 1964 Adams told Dallas Police detective Jim Leavelle
that she saw Bill Shelley and an employee named Billy (Lovelady) when
she arrived on the first floor, one minute after the shooting. Six
weeks later, on April 7, Adams said exactly that same thing to the WC.
She told WC attorney David Belin that Shelley and Lovelady were
"slightly east of the front of the east elevator, and probably as far
south as the length of the elevator."
The W.C. knew that Adams' testimony conflicted with
their claim that Oswald ran down the stairs at the same time. The WC
then provided Adams with a typewritten transcript of her testimony and
asked her to read, make corrections, and sign. Adams corrected and
signed her W.C. testimony, and the resulting document was classified
"TOP SECRET." Adams' testimony of seeing Bill Shelley and Billy
Lovelady on the first floor one minute after the shooting was of great
concern, because the WC claimed that Oswald ran down the stairs at the
same time. Another concern for the WC was the presence of two TSBD
employees near the freight elevators and stairs one minute after the
shooting. Why were they not outside watching the parade? What were they
doing?
1st problem--timing:
As the Presidential limousine was entering Dealey Plaza, HARVEY Oswald
told Capt. Fritz he was on the first floor (Domino Room). Oswald said
that he then went to the 2nd floor lunchroom to buy a Coke. It is very
unlikely that Oswald took the old wooden stairs to the 2nd floor, as he
would likely have run into the two women and/or been seen by Officer
Baker and Roy Truly walking from the Domino Room to the stairway. It is
more likely that Oswald left the Domino Room, walked to the front of
the building, and then walked up the stairway to the second floor
hallway. On the 4th floor Sandra Styles and Victoria Adams were
watching the parade. Moments after the shots were fired Sandra Styles
remembered that Jackie Kennedy began to crawl on top of the trunk of
the limousine. At that moment Victoria Adams and Sandra Styles,
followed by their supervisor, Dorothy Garner, hurried to the old wooden
stairs in the NW corner of the building. Dorothy Garner stood by the
stairs and watched Adams and Styles as they hurried down the stairs.
Adams told the WC that she arrived on the first floor "no longer than a
minute at the most," and neither saw nor heard anyone using the
stairway. Moments after the two women arrived on the 1st floor, Officer
Marrion Baker and Roy Truly began running up the stairs. Baker said
that when he first saw Oswald, he (Oswald) was walking away from the
entry door and toward the back of the lunchroom. If true, this is
a good indication that Oswald had just arrived in the lunchroom, after
walking from the front stairway, thru the hallway, and entering the
lunchroom. Baker said that he and Roy Truly spoke briefly with Oswald
and then continued running up the stairs to the upper floors. As Baker
and Truly were running up the stairs, it is likely that Oswald walked
down the old wooden stairway to the 1st floor where Bill Shelley,
following Roy Truly's instructions, was watching the freight elevators.
Dorothy Garner remained standing by the stairs on the 4th floor, and
saw building manager Roy Truly and a policeman (Officer Baker) as they
ran up the stairway and continued running to the upper floors. In the
minutes following the shooting Dorothy Garner remained standing next to
the stairs on the 4th floor. The only people Garner saw or heard on the
stairs were Adams, Styles, Baker and Truly. From Adams' testimony the
WC knew that neither Oswald nor anyone from the upper floors could have
run down the stairs without being seen by these women. WC assistant
counsel Wesley Liebeler read Adams' W.C. testimony and wrote, "Victoria
Adams testified that she came down the stairway, within about 1 minute
after the shots, from the fourth floor to the first floor where she
encountered two Depository employees--Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady.
If Adams saw these two men on the 1st floor, near the freight elevators
and stairway, only one minute after the shooting, then it would have
been impossible for Oswald to have ran down the stairs from the 6th to
the 2nd floor at the same time.
Wesley Liebeler was well aware of the timing problem. If the WC
conducted an honest investigation they would have interviewed both
Sandra Styles and Dorothy Garner, who would have corroborated Adams'
claim of arriving on the first floor within one minute of the shooting.
The WC did not interview these ladies because their testimony, and in
particular Dorothy Garner's testimony, would have made it impossible
for the WC to show that after shots were fired at President Kennedy,
Oswald immediately ran from the so-called sniper's nest on the 6th
floor, passed by the 4th floor, and arrived in the 2nd floor lunchroom
in less than 1 1/2 minutes. On June 11, 1964 Dorothy Garner was
interviewed for the first time by assistant US attorney Martha Joe
Stroud. Garner said that she stood at the stairway on the 4th floor and
watched as Adams and Styles ran down the stairs and moments later
watched as Truly and a policeman ran up the stairs. Garner was the one
witness who could testify that nobody from the upper floors ran down
the stairs and passed by the 4th floor in the minutes following the
shooting. In other words neither Oswald nor anyone from the 6th floor
ran down the stairs in the minutes following the shooting. Oswald was
very likely in the 1st floor domino room at the time of the shooting,
just like he told Capt. Fritz. Stroud sent a registered letter to WC
general counsel J. Lee Rankin, to inform Rankin that Dorothy Garner had
watched both Adams and Styles run down the stairs and moments later
watched Roy Truly and a police officer run up the stairs. This letter
was hidden from the public for the next 30 years.
In order for the WC to show that Oswald ran from the sniper's nest on
the 6th floor to the 2nd floor lunchroom within 1 1/2 minutes, the WC
had to find a way to deal with Victoria Adams' testimony. They began by
totally ignoring and refusing to interview Sandra Styles and Dorothy
Garner, because the WC knew these women would testify that nobody ran
down the stairs in the minutes following the shooting. The WC now had
to find a way to discredit Victoria Adams' testimony. They needed to
find a witness or witnesses who would testify that Adams did not
arrive on the first floor in less a minute, but arrived several minutes
later. Such testimony would then give the WC a brief period of time in
which to claim that immediately after the shooting Oswald ran down the
stairs to the 2nd floor lunchroom in less than 1 1/2 minutes, before
Adams ran down the stairs a few minutes later.
Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady
About twenty minutes after the shooting Bill Shelley, Bonnie Ray
Williams, and Danny Arce were driven to police headquarters. Billy
Lovelady was driven to police headquarters in a different car. Shelley
gave an affidavit to the Dallas Police and said, "I ran across the
street to the park.... I went back to the building and went inside.
Called my wife. I was on the first floor then and I stayed at
the elevator [freight] and was told not to let anyone out of the
elevator. I left the elevator and went with the police up to
the other floors." Lovelady provided an affidavit and said, "After
it was over we [WE!! plural--Shelley and Lovelady] went back into the
building and took some police officers up to search the building."
Their affidavits place
both men in the building moments after the shooting, where they were
seen by Victoria Adams one minute after the shooting.
In the months
following the assassination neither Shelley nor Lovelady denied seeing
Victoria Adams in the building, but both men soon began to change their
testimony and made it appear as though they saw Victoria Adams much
later in the day. On March 18, 1964, Shelley told the FBI, "returned
thru the west side of the building and returned approximately 10
minutes later"! The following day, on March 19, Billy Lovelady told
the FBI, "I ran toward the spot where President Kennedy's car had
stopped. William Shelley and myself stayed in that area for
approximately five minutes"! Three weeks later, on April 7,
Adams, Shelley, and Lovelady testified before the WC. Adams testified
first, and said that she saw Shelley and Lovelady on the 1st floor one
minute after the shooting. Shelley and Lovelady, however, told the WC
they returned to the building much later. The WC chose to believe
Shelley and Lovelady, and decided that Adams' testimony of arriving on
the first floor within one minute of the shooting was incorrect. The WC
concluded that Adams arrived on the first floor as much as 10 minutes
later. With Adams' testimony discredited, the WC was now able to claim
that Oswald ran from the sniper's nest on the 6th floor to the 2nd
floor lunchroom in 1 minute 14-18 seconds, several minutes before Adams
ran down the stairs.
Following is a sequential list that shows how Shelley and Lovelady
repeatedly changed their statements.
Billy Lovelady
DPD Affidavit, 11/22/63: "After [the
shooting] was over WE WENT BACK INTO THE BUILDING...."
FBI Report, 11/22/63: "....immediately
after hearing the shots [LOVELADY] and SHELLEY STARTED RUNNING TOWARDS
THE PRESIDENTIAL CAR, but it sped away.... [They] then returned to the
[TSBD]...."
FBI Statement, 3/19/64: "....following the
shooting, I RAN TOWARD THE SPOT WHERE PRESIDENT KENNEDY'S CAR HAD
STOPPED. William Shelley and myself STAYED IN THAT AREA FOR
APPROXIMATELY FIVE MINUTES when we then re-entered the Depository
building by the side door located on the west side of the building."
WC Deposition, 4/7/64: "... ABOUT THREE
MINUTES AFTER THE SHOTS, Gloria Calvery arrived. After speaking with
her, [WE] WALKED QUICKLY TO THE RAILROAD TRACKS, and then entered the
west door of the TSBD."
NOTE: WC Attorney Joseph Ball asked Lovelady
"After you ran to the railroad tracks you came back and went in the
back door of the building.... Who did you see in the first floor?"
Lovelady answered, "I saw a girl but I wouldn't swear to it it's
Vickie." It is important to understand that Victoria Adams' name hadn't
been previously mentioned during Lovelady's testimony, yet Lovelady
somehow knew her name and knew that he was supposed to have seen her on
the first floor. It appears that Lovelady was interviewed and coached
prior to giving testimony to the WC.
HSCA Testimony: Lovelady told the HSCA
that he DID NOT RETURN TO THE BUILDING FOR 25 MINUTES
Bill Shelley
DPD Affidavit, 11/22/63: "I ran across the
street to the corner of the park and ran into [Gloria Calvery].... I
WENT BACK TO THE BUILDING and went inside and called my wife and told
her what happened."
FBI Statement, 3/18/64: "Immediately
following the shooting, Billy N. Lovelady and I accompanied some
uniformed police officers to the railroad yard just west of the
building and RETURNED THRU THE WEST SIDE OF THE BUILDING ABOUT 10
MINUTES LATER."
WC Deposition, 4/7/64: "About three or four
minutes after the shots, Gloria Calvery arrived. Billy Lovelady and I
ran across the street to the concrete island and stopped for a minute.
We then WALKED TO THE FIRST RAILROAD TRACK AND WATCHED THEM SEARCHING
FOR A WHILE, after which we entered the west door of the TSBD."
2nd problem--identity of two “white men”:
On February 17, 1964 Victoria Adams told Dallas Police detective Jim
Laevelle that when she arrived on the first floor, one minute after the
shooting, she saw Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady. Seven weeks later,
on April 7, 1964, Adams told WC attorney David Belin the same story.
During Adams' testimony, Belin gave Adams a diagram of the 1st floor
and asked her to pinpoint where she encountered Shelley and Lovelady.
Miss ADAMS - I saw them there.
Mr. BELIN - I mean; you saw them?
Miss ADAMS - Yes.
Mr. BELIN - Would that have been a matter of seconds after you got to
the bottom of the first floor?
Miss ADAMS - Definitely.
Mr. BELIN - Less than 30 seconds?
Miss ADAMS - Yes.
Adams described the location where she saw Shelley and Lovelady
on the first floor. WC attorney David Belin handed Adams a diagram of
the 1st floor (WC Ex. 496) and asked her to pinpoint this location.
Adams identified a point on this exhibit, indicated as #7, where she
saw Shelley and Lovelady. Belin described this location, for the
record, as "slightly east of the front of the east elevator, and as far
south as the length of the elevator, is that correct?" Adams responded,
"yes sir." This
original document, which showed the location of Shelley and Lovelady on
the first floor one minute after the shooting, was last seen in
possession of the WC and soon disappeared. This document had
to disappear, because it placed Adams, Shelley, and Lovelady
together on the 1st floor only seconds before Truly and Baker arrived,
and (VERY IMPORTANT!) identified the two "white men" seen by Officer
Baker as Shelley and Lovelady. A diagram of the 1st floor is
shown above, with the location of the two men shown as described by
Adams to the WC.
Adams’ co-worker, Sandra Styles, followed her from their office on the
4th floor, down the wooden stairs, and onto the 1st floor. As the two
women were rushing out of the building, Styles momentarily focused her
attention on a policeman hurrying toward the stairs and elevator.
Styles’ memory of seeing police (Officer Baker) on the first floor
agreed with Adams’ statement of the time that she arrived on the first
floor, which was within one minute after the shooting. Styles did not
see Shelley or Lovelady, but her vivid memory of the police may explain
why she paid little or no attention to other people in the area. Her
focus of attention was on the policeman. The only policeman on the
first floor one minute after the shooting was Officer Marrion Baker.
Baker told the WC "as we tried to get on the elevators I remember
two men, one was sitting on this side and another one between 20 or 30
feet away from us looking at us." WC member Alled Dulles asked, "were
they white men?" Baker replied, "Yes, sir." With all hell
breaking loose and people scurrying about everywhere, Baker said one of
these two men was sitting near the stairs and the elevator. Sitting!!
NOTE: Allen Dulles was a partner in the
prestigious international law firm Sullivan and Cromwell. ln 1945,
Dulles was Station Chief of the Office of Strategic Services (OSS)
Station in Switzerland. Allen Dulles personally negotiated the early
surrender of German forces in Italy and Austria days before the final
surrender of Germany. In 1953 Dulles became the Director of the CIA, a
position he held until 1961 when he was fired by President Kennedy.
One of these two "white men" was Bill Shelley, who
stated in an affidavit to the Dallas Police that he was told by his
supervisor, building manager Roy Truly, "to watch the elevators and not
let anyone off." Shelley told the WC, "Mr. Truly left me guarding the
elevator, not to let anybody up and down the elevator or stairway." The
only time that Roy Truly could have told Shelley to watch the elevators
was moments before he and Officer Baker ran up the stairs--1 and
1/2 minutes after the shooting. As Shelley stood by the
elevators, Truly and Baker began to run up the stairs, where they
allegedly confronted Oswald in the 2nd floor lunchroom, and then
continued running to the upper floors and onto the roof. A couple of
minutes later, about 12:34 PM, NBC news reporter Robert McNeal entered
the building, and went directly to the back of the building. MacNeil
asked for the location of a telephone and, after waiting a couple of
minutes, called his office in New York City (the time his call was
recorded at 12:36 PM). As he waited for the phone, McNeal saw three
very calm men in shirt sleeves near Bill Shelley's office.
I believe, but cannot prove, the 3 men seen by MacNeil were Shelley,
Lovelady, and Oswald. I believe that Oswald picked up his jacket from
the domino room, and was escorted out the rear of the building by
Shelley. Oswald was seen a minute later by Wesley Frazier as he walked
down the steps from the loading dock, and then walked south on Houston
toward Elm St. A few minutes later Shelley met and escorted police to
the upper floors, as he described in his affidavit to the police.
About
12:50 PM Shelley was driven to police headquarters, along with Bonnie
Ray Williams and Danny Arce. From the evidence, it is now clear that
Adams and Styles arrived on the first floor one minute after the
shooting. Adams, while running toward an exit door, saw Shelley and
Lovelady while Styles, following a few steps behind, focused her
attention very briefly on a policeman who was running toward the
freight elevators and wooden stairs. After Truly failed to secure an
elevator, both he and Baker began to run up the stairs, where they
allegedly confronted Oswald in the 2nd floor lunchroom. As Baker and
Truly continued running up the stairs, Oswald left the lunchroom and
walked down the stairs to the first floor, where Shelley was watching
the elevators with Lovelady nearby. A minute later I believe it was
these three men--Shelley, Lovelady, and Oswald--who were seen by NBC
reporter Robert McNeil close to Shelley's office.
After reviewing the statements of Victoria Adams and Officer Marrion
Baker, the WC soon realized there was another serious problem. This
problem was the two unidentified “white men,” seen by Officer Baker one
minute after the shooting, Their presence at the freight elevators and
stairs one minute after the shooting gave the impression that these men
may have been co-conspirators. It is very significant, and totally
unexplainable, as to why neither Baker nor Truly were never questioned
by the WC or anyone as to the identity or identification of these two
men.
The WC knew from Victoria Adams’ statement to the Dallas Police, and
from her WC testimony, and from her signed WC deposition, and from the
1st floor diagram where she pinpointed the location of Shelley and
Lovelady, that she saw these men on the first floor one minute after
the shooting. The WC knew from affidavits given to the Dallas Police by
Shelley and Lovelady that less than one minute after the shooting these
two men were at the back of the building. Officer Baker told the WC
that he saw two "white men" near the elevators and stairs when he
arrived at the back of the building. The WC also knew, or should have
known, from Shelley's affidavit and WC testimony that Shelley was one
of these two “white men,” because Roy Truly had directed him to watch
the elevators before he (Truly) and Baker ran up the stairs. The WC
never asked Truly about these two men, never asked Truly to confirm or
deny if these two men were strangers or if they were Bill Shelley or
Billy Lovelady, and Truly never once offered any information or
description of these men. Does anyone know, or can anyone guess, the
reasons why the WC intentionally failed to question Truly about these
two men?? There were three reasons, and all would cause a lot of
trouble for the WC.
The first reason. If the WC questioned Truly, and
asked him if
these men were strangers, then Truly would have to somehow explain why
he didn't tell Officer Baker these men were strangers. Two strangers,
on the first floor by the freight elevators and stairs one minute after
the shooting, gives a clear impression these men were somehow involved,
and were likely waiting for Oswald and/or the shooters to arrive via
the stairs or freight elevators.
The second reason. If Truly told the WC these two men were
Shelley and Lovelady, this would confirm that Victoria Adams did arrive
on the first floor one minute after the shooting, and thereby prove
that Oswald could not have run down the stairs at the same time Adams
and Styles were running down the stairs. The WC dared not ask Truly
about the
"two white men" seen by Officer Baker, because whatever answer Truly
provided would be a major concern.
The third reason. The WC failed to ask Roy Truly if and when
he told Shelley to watch the elevators. Truly could only have told
Shelley to watch the elevators when he and Baker arrived at the
elevator and stairs one minute after the shooting. Truly then left the
1st floor, and ran up the stairs with Officer Baker to the upper
floors, while Shelley stood by the elevator, escorted police to the
upper floors, and was then driven to police headquarters around 12:50
PM. Asking Truly
when he told Shelley to watch the elevators would further confirm that
Adams did, in fact, see Shelley on the first floor one minute after the
shooting.
We are now able to see and understand the necessary and
coordinated effort made by the WC to exclude all witnesses and avoid
all questions to witnesses that would confirm Adams' arrival on the 1st
floor one minute after the shooting. We can also see how and when both
Shelley and Lovelady repeatedly changed and lengthened the time before
they re-entered the building, thereby providing the time necessary so
the WC could claim that Oswald ran down the stairs from the sniper's
nest to the 2nd floor lunchroom. But why? Why would Shelley and
Lovelady change their statements and testimony? They may have wanted to
avoid being confronted and questioned about their reasons and motives
for being at the back of the building only one minute after the
shooting. There may, however, have been a more sinister reason. Bill
Shelley had a good reason to hide his presence and activities at the
back of the building within one minute of the shooting. In 1974 Dallas
journalist Elzie Glaze met a woman who had been working for the Texas
Book Depository since 1969. Her immediate supervisor was Bill Shelley,
who Glaze met and then contacted on numerous occasions. In a 1989
letter Glaze wrote, "Mr. Shelley claims to have been an intelligence
officer during World War II and thereafter joined the CIA." Shelley was
Oswald's supervisor at the TSBD, but his connections with Oswald could
have been much deeper. Below is a photo of Oswald handing out FPCC
literature in front of the International Trade Mart building in New
Orleans. There is a man standing behind Oswald and to his left with a
very distinct hair style. When the photo of this man is compared with
photos of Shelley taken on 11/22/63 the similarities are obvious. If
the man in the photo was Bill Shelley, then his connection with Oswald
is much deeper.
If this had been an honest investigation the WC should have focused
their attention on the two unidentified "white men" near the stairs and
elevators at the rear of the building moments after the shooting. The
WC should have asked Roy Truly why he provided no information
concerning the identity of these men. Based upon Adams' testimony, the
WC should have brought Shelley, Lovelady, and Officer Baker together
and simply asked Baker if these were the two "white men" he saw on the
1st floor. The WC would likely have asked Shelley and Lovelady what
they were doing at the back of the building one minute after the
shooting. Were they waiting for Oswald to arrive and then help him get
safely out of the building? Did they turn the electricity to the
passenger elevator off and a few minutes later turn the electricity on
in order to allow the shooter(s) from the 6th floor to access and ride
the passenger elevator to a lower floor? Whatever they were doing, the
presence of two men near the freight elevators and stairway, one minute
after the shooting, is a clear indication that either one or both of
these men may have been co-conspirators.
If the WC, the FBI, the HSCA, or serious researchers were interested in
learning the truth concerning the timing of Adams' and Styles' arrival
on the 1st floor, and whether or not Adams saw Shelley and Lovelady,
they only needed to ask a few simple questions. For example, Styles
should have been brought before the WC and/or the HSCA and asked if the
policeman she saw on the first floor was wearing a white helmut. Did
she see building manager Roy Truly with the policeman? Did she see the
policeman and Truly run up the wooden stairs? Dorothy Garner should
have been brought before the WC and/or the HSCA and asked how long
after the shooting did she, Adams, and Styles arrive at the stairs. How
long after Adams and Styles began walking down the stairs did she see
the policeman and Truly arrive on the 4th floor? How long did she
remain at the stairs? The WC intentionally failed to interview Styles
and Garner and ask these simple questions, because they were not
interested in the truth. They were only interested in writing a report
that named Oswald as the one and only assassin of President Kennedy,
and that he acted alone. When the WC, FBI, or researchers fail to ask
simple and obvious questions then they are almost certainly and
intentionally avoiding the truth and following their own agenda. By
asking a few simple questions the timing of Adams and Styles arrival on
the first floor could have been confirmed by the FBI or WC, and would
show that Oswald did not and could have run down the stairs after the
shooting. Oswald was, in fact, in the domino room on the 1st floor
minutes before the shooting, and may have been in the 2nd floor
lunchroom after the shooting.
For nearly 40 years, from 1963 thru 2002, the WC testimony of Victoria
Adams relating to her seeing Shelley and Lovelady on the 1st floor of
the TSBD was never in doubt. It was the timing of Adams' arrival on the
1st floor that was questioned by the WC. Following her WC testimony in
April, 1964, there was never any indication whatsoever that Adams told
anyone that her WC testimony was inaccurate or had been changed. Two
years after testifying before the Warren Commission, in 1966, Adams was
interviewed and recorded by Mort Sahl. Adams clearly said that she saw
both Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady near the freight elevators on the
1st floor of the TSBD within 30-60 seconds after the shooting. Author
Barry Ernest claims to have spent 35 years searching for Adams. In 2002
Ernest said that he located and interviewed Adams. Ernest claimed that
Adams told him that she never saw Bill Shelley or Billy Lovelady on the
first floor. After hearing this claim Ernest, or any JFK researcher,
should have known this was not what Adams told the Warren Commission in
1964. In fact Victoria Adams said repeatedly, on numerous occasions,
that she saw both Shelley and Lovelady when she arrived on the 1st
floor moments after the assassination. DPD Officer Marion Baker told
the WC that when he and Roy Truly arrived at the rear elevators, about
90 seconds after the shooting, Officer Baker saw two "white men"
standing near the freight elevators. Building manager Roy Truly knew
both Shelley and Lovelady, but was never asked about these two men by
the Warren Commission.
In late 2023 Len Osanic, the Canada-based host of Black Op Radio,
located a long lost recording of the 1963 interview of Vicki Adams by
Mort Sahl and Mark Lane. Toward the end of the interview, she clearly
says she saw Shelley and Lovelady when she arrived at the bottom of the
staircase, just a minute or so after the last shot rang out. The whole
interview is very much worth listening to, but to hear Ms. Adams speak
about Shelley and Lovelady, start at about the 37-minute mark.
Click play button to hear audio.
Ernest, or any JFK researcher, should have been
very suspicious as to
why Adams allegedly told Ernest in 2002 that she did not see Shelley
and Lovelady near the freight elevators. In 1964 Adams told the Warren
Commission that she had seen Shelley and Lovelady near the elevators,
signed her WC testimony (marked TOP SECRET), and repeated seeing
Shelley and Lovelady in a tape recorded interview on November 25,1966.
Ernest should have given Adams copies of her WC testimony, a signed
copy of her WC testimony, the DPD report by Jim Lavelle, and the 1966
recorded interview with Mort Sahl and asked for an explanation. Ernest,
or any JFK researcher, should have asked Adams which portion/part of
her WC testimony, her signed transcript, the DPD report, and her 1966
interview with Mort Sahl was inaccurate. If Adams still claimed that
her WC testimony was inaccurate, then Adams should have been reminded
that she was deposed by David Belin in front of WC members, WC
attorneys, WC staff, and a WC stenographer. Adams was given a
typewritten copy of her deposition, and asked to review and make any
necessary changes. Adams made a few minor grammatical changes, and then
signed this document (which was marked TOP SECRET).
On a diagram of the first floor of the TSBD, given to Adams by WC
attorney David Belin during her testimony, she pinpointed the exact
location where she saw Shelley and Lovelady. Vickie Adams died in 2007.
Four years later Ernest claimed in his book, Girl on the Stairs,
that Adams said she never saw Shelley or Lovelady on the 1st floor of
the building. However, Ernest has no hard evidence to support this
claim--no tape recording, no video interview, no signed letter from
Adams. Ernest also claimed in his book that Adams said "someone must
have changed her WC testimony....someone added the information about
Shelley and Lovelady." Ernest was the first and only person to claim
that Adams said her WC testimony had been changed. Serious researchers
should read Adams' WC testimony, read her typewritten testimony marked
"TOP SECRET," listen to Adams' 1966 interview with Mort Sahl on GOOGLE,
and judge for themselves whether Victoria Adams saw Shelley and
Lovelady on the 1st floor within 30-60 seconds after the shooting.
Shelley and Lovelady, standing near the freight elevators at the back
of the TSBD only moments after the shooting, were there for a reason.
Oswald, in the 2nd floor lunchroom only moments after the shooting, was
there for a reason. Oswald was placed in the 2nd floor lunchroom, and
nobody could vouch for his whereabouts at 12:30 PM. Shelley and
Lovelady's presence near the stairway at the NW corner of the building
at the time of the shooting clearly implicated them as possible
conspirators. But if Vicki Adams did not see them moments after the
shooting (Girl on the Sairs), which was supported by Shelley and
Lovelady's testimony that they did not return to the building for 10
minutes (final WC testimony), then there was plenty of time for Oswald
to have hurried from the 6th floor to the 2nd floor lunchroom.
The truth about Adams' new claim can be found in her own testimony to
the
WC. If closely examined, there is no doubt that Adams saw Shelley and
Lovelady one minute after the shooting on the first floor. Adams,
Shelley, and Lovelady all testified before the WC on the same
day--April 7, 1964. At 2:15 PM Adams told WC attorney David Belin that
she saw Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor one minute after the
shooting.
Mr. BELIN - When you got to the first floor did
you immediately proceed to this point where you say you encountered Mr.
Shelley and Mr. Lovelady? Well, you showed me on a diagram of the first
floor that there was a place which was south and somewhat east of the
front part of the east elevator that you encountered Truly and Lovelady?
Miss ADAMS - I saw them there.
Mr. BELIN - I mean; you saw them?
Miss ADAMS - Yes.
Mr. BELIN - Would that have been a matter of seconds after you got to
the bottom of the first floor?
Miss ADAMS - Definitely.
Mr. BELIN - Less than 30 seconds?
Miss ADAMS - Yes.
An hour later, at 3:50 PM, WC attorney Joseph Ball questioned
Billy Lovelady. With no prompting, and no previous mention of "Victoria
Adams," Lovelady volunteered that he saw "Vickie" when
he returned to the building. There is no indication that Lovelady even
knew the name of this 23 year old officer worker from the 4th floor.
Why would Lovelady volunteer that he saw "Vickie" when he returned to
the building? What reason would Lovelady have to say anything about
Adams? It is obvious that Lovelady was "coached" prior to giving his
testimony, and knew that he would be questioned about meeting up with
Adams moments after the shooting. At 4:10 PM Mr. Ball questioned Bill
Shelley, who said that he did see Vickie, but later in the afternoon on
the 4th floor. The simple fact is that if Adams had not told the WC, at
2:15 PM on April 7, 1964, that she saw Shelley and Lovelady on the
first floor, then the WC would have no reason to question these men an
hour later about Victoria (Vickie) Adams. Her newly alleged claim,
after 40 years, that she never saw Shelley or Lovelady on the first
floor appears to be a hoax.
Barry Ernest also claims that Adams alleged during an interview that
her WC testimony was changed, and that Bill Shelley and Billy
Lovelady's names were added to her WC testimony. On February 17, 1964,
two months before her WC testimony, Adams told Dallas Police detective
Jim Leavelle that when she arrived on the first floor, one minute after
the shooting, she saw Bill Shelley and a man named "Billy." This police
report, two months before her WC testimony, contradicts Adams' newly
alleged claim that the names of Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady were
added to her WC testimony. Adams told the same story about seeing
Shelley and Lovelady to the WC when she testified on April 7, 1964. In
addition, Adams described in detail to the WC where these men were
standing when she arrived on the first floor. She then pinpointed their
location on a diagram of the 1st floor given to her by WC attorney
David Belin. If the names of Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady were not
in her WC testimony at 2:15 PM, then WC attorney Joseph Ball would have
no reason to question Shelley and Lovelady about Adams one hour later.
If Adams' testimony was changed, as Ernest claims, think about the
number of people who would be involved in such a coverup--David Belin,
Joseph Ball, WC staff, stenographers, Dallas Police, Garner, Styles,
Adams, Lovelady. Adams' alleged claim that Shelley and Lovelady's names
were added to her testimony is without merit, without proof, and
difficult to believe.
When Adams, or anyone, attempts to change their testimony, claims to
have new information, or claims to be an important witness to JFK
matters after 40 years, they are often viewed with skepticism and
doubt. If they have verifiable, supporting documentation, then they
deserve to be heard and their information and documents subject to
scrutiny. But if they have nothing more than unverifiable and
unproveable claims, then their story must be viewed with suspicion and
doubt. Neither Victoria Adams nor Barry Ernest have provided any
verifiable documentation to support Adams' alleged new claims of not
seeing Shelley and Lovelady on the first floor, one minute after the
shooting, nor have they provided any verifiable documentation that
Shelley and Lovelady's names were added to her testimony. As can be
seen from Adams' testimony before the WC, her newly alleged claims are
without merit, without proof, and very difficult to believe.
Epilogue
There is little doubt the man arrested and charged with killing
President Kennedy did not run down the stairs moments after the
shooting. There are also valid reasons to question and wonder why
Victoria Adams or anyone would, after 40 years, change their testimony.
Unfortunately, the one and only source of information concerning Adams'
recanting her brief contact with Shelley and Lovelady on the 1st floor
of the TSBD moments after the shooting is "The Girl on the Stairs" by
Ernest.
In my view, however, the story of Victoria Adams' arrival on the 1st
floor of the TSBD, one minute after the shooting, is secondary. The
more important story is the distinct possibility that Adams did see
Shelley and Lovelady at the rear of the building one minute after the
shooting. The WC and FBI were determined to avoid this issue because
two TSBD employees, waiting by the only access to the 6th floor moments
after the shooting, were potential co-conspirators. WC member Allen
Dulles, who was present at both Baker and Truly's depositions, may have
had different reasons for wanting to avoid any reference to the two men
on the first floor.
Two people told the WC they saw these men: Officer Baker told Allen
Dulles they were two "white men." Victoria Adams told the WC she saw
Bill Shelley and Billy Lovelady standing near the elevators when she
arrived on the first floor (circa 12:31-32 PM). She pinpointed their
location on a diagram of the first floor, a position about 20-25 feet
from the west wall of the building. Officer Baker, who arrived moments
later (circa 12:32 PM), said one of the two "white men" was "sitting
down" and "on this side" [of the elevators]. Baker said the second man
"was 20-30 feet away, looking at us." Two to three minutes later (circa
12:34-35 PM) NBC reporter Robert MacNeil ran into the front entrance of
the building, thru the double doors, into the warehouse, and waited to
use a telephone to call his office in New York City (call was confirmed
at 12:36 PM). While waiting for the phone, next to Truly and Shelley's
offices, MacNeil's attention was focused on three men who he described
as very calm and in "shirtsleeves" (without suit jacket). I think it
very likely that two of these very calm men were the same two men seen
by Baker and Adams only 1-2 minutes earlier. The third man may have
been Oswald, who had just returned to the 1st floor from the 2nd floor
lunchroom. If these 3 men were not Shelley, Lovelady, and Oswald at the
back of the building, then who were they?
The FBI quickly concluded that Oswald was the one and only assassin,
which was reported day after day by the media. The WC was determined to
reach the same conclusion. Former CIA Director Allen Dulles had his own
reasons for wanting to eliminate Bill Shelley from the first floor one
minute after the shooting. Any indications of a conspiracy or
co-conspirators, such as Shelley and Lovelady, had to be avoided. WC
attorney David Belin and WC member Allen Dulles refused to question
either Truly or Baker as to the identity of these two men, even though
Victoria Adams told the WC and DPD they were Bill Shelley and Billy
Lovelady. The WC never questioned Roy Truly about these two men, nor
did Truly ever volunteer any information about these men. The WC also
failed to ask Roy Truly if he directed Shelley to guard the elevators.
The anatomy of a WC cover up: In the months following 11/22/63 Shelley
and Lovelady repeatedly changed their testimony to make it appear as
thou they returned to the building much later. Adams' typewritten WC
deposition, upon which she made corrections and signed, was marked
"SECRET" and withheld from the public. The diagram of the 1st floor,
upon which Adams placed the location of Shelley and Lovelady, also
disappeared. Adams' original stenographic WC testimony disappeared from
the National Archives; now there is no way to confirm her original
testimony. Years after the assassination Bill Shelley told a fellow
TSBD employee and Dallas news reporter Elzie Glaze that he had worked
for intelligence during WW2 and later joined the CIA. Shelley's
connection to the CIA would explain why neither Allen Dulles nor WC
attorney David Belin ever questioned Officer Baker or Roy Truly as to
the identity of the two men (Bill Shelley, connected to the CIA, at the
back of the building, one minute after the shooting, had to be avoided
at all costs). Thirty eight years after the assassination, Victoria
Adams allegedly told author Ernest that she did not see Shelley and
Lovelady on the first floor.